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Thursday, September 9, 2010
Thursday, August 5, 2010
Wave goodbye
Sheer brilliance was not enough, it is curtains for Wave. Bits and bobs are likely to appear in Google products but the whole notion of Wave as the next generation, game changing product is not going to be realised.
For us Wave proved itself quickly; it was easy to produce a WYSWYG interface for MediaWiki. This generated a lot of interest in many places, it had us generate a lot of air miles and we had something to show and tell.
For us there were a few issues that were not resolved to our satisfaction. Our aim was to provide a WYSWYG interface for MediaWiki and this meant that our complete solution had to be open source. This took just too long, there were understandable reasons but it killed interest in the Wikimedia Foundation. As the Wave interface was to be used for Wikipedia, it was just not acceptable that there was no way to internationalise and localise Wave and its extensions.
I am sad that it is over, here is finally a video with Erik Schmidt talking about the demise of Wave..The sound quality is poor..
Thanks,
GerardM
For us Wave proved itself quickly; it was easy to produce a WYSWYG interface for MediaWiki. This generated a lot of interest in many places, it had us generate a lot of air miles and we had something to show and tell.
For us there were a few issues that were not resolved to our satisfaction. Our aim was to provide a WYSWYG interface for MediaWiki and this meant that our complete solution had to be open source. This took just too long, there were understandable reasons but it killed interest in the Wikimedia Foundation. As the Wave interface was to be used for Wikipedia, it was just not acceptable that there was no way to internationalise and localise Wave and its extensions.
I am sad that it is over, here is finally a video with Erik Schmidt talking about the demise of Wave..The sound quality is poor..
Thanks,
GerardM
Tuesday, March 2, 2010
Can we use Wave to edit MediaWiki on a mobile ?
I spend quite a lot of time helping the Mobile Wikipedia become more prominent. I learned a lot from doing this so I consider it time well spend. The number of languages with sufficient localisation has gone up from 20 to 52 or 34 depending on how you count. We created some concept mobile main pages and we requested the implementation of two main pages for two Wikipedias.
The software used is build in Ruby on Rails and it is developed separate from MediaWiki. It is currently useful to read Wikipedia articles, you cannot edit and you can not sign on or set personal preferences.
The MediaWikiWave project proved the concept that it is possible to create a WYSIWYG interface for MediaWiki. We have a functional editor for MediaWiki, the question is will it also work on a mobile phone, the question is will it also work with other languages and scripts.
I expect that for Wave to succeed, it will support both mobile phones and other languages and scripts. We have been told that internationalisation is part of the core MediaWiki functionality, and as I argued earlier, internationalisation and localisation need proper support for bots and gadgets as well. The one thing I am not sure about is mobile telephone support. What I do expect is, if not great then rapidly improving, support in Chrome and on Android and Chrome OS devices.
Thanks,
GerardM
The software used is build in Ruby on Rails and it is developed separate from MediaWiki. It is currently useful to read Wikipedia articles, you cannot edit and you can not sign on or set personal preferences.
The MediaWikiWave project proved the concept that it is possible to create a WYSIWYG interface for MediaWiki. We have a functional editor for MediaWiki, the question is will it also work on a mobile phone, the question is will it also work with other languages and scripts.
I expect that for Wave to succeed, it will support both mobile phones and other languages and scripts. We have been told that internationalisation is part of the core MediaWiki functionality, and as I argued earlier, internationalisation and localisation need proper support for bots and gadgets as well. The one thing I am not sure about is mobile telephone support. What I do expect is, if not great then rapidly improving, support in Chrome and on Android and Chrome OS devices.
Thanks,
GerardM
Thursday, February 11, 2010
Internationalisation is an architecture
The #wave internationalisation and localisation is said to be planned for the future. I believe that this will be true for the core product. However, this does not give me the confidence I need for the robots and gadgets that are build by all the people outside Google.
When you look at the Etherpad software, you will find that it has not been internationalised and consequently it is estimated to be some 3 to 6 weeks of work to introduce internationalisation to the code. I expect that a similar situation exists for the robots and gadgets but the problem is more complicated because of the many developers involved.
Internationalisation is an architecture and consequently it should be part of the design not only for the core code but also for everything else. A good example of how this should be done can be found at translatewiki.net where software like MediaWiki and StatusNet are localised. Both these applications have extensions and for MediaWiki almost all extensions are localised as a matter of cause. The first extensions for StatusNet are appearing at translatewiki.net and, it will prove a lot of work to get them internationalised and ready for localisation.
It would be great if a road plan for the total internationalisation for both Wave and its gadgets and robots would be published.. It may be even an idea to consider translatewiki.net, it boasts a community that aims to support over 250 languages...
Thanks,
GerardM
When you look at the Etherpad software, you will find that it has not been internationalised and consequently it is estimated to be some 3 to 6 weeks of work to introduce internationalisation to the code. I expect that a similar situation exists for the robots and gadgets but the problem is more complicated because of the many developers involved.
Internationalisation is an architecture and consequently it should be part of the design not only for the core code but also for everything else. A good example of how this should be done can be found at translatewiki.net where software like MediaWiki and StatusNet are localised. Both these applications have extensions and for MediaWiki almost all extensions are localised as a matter of cause. The first extensions for StatusNet are appearing at translatewiki.net and, it will prove a lot of work to get them internationalised and ready for localisation.
It would be great if a road plan for the total internationalisation for both Wave and its gadgets and robots would be published.. It may be even an idea to consider translatewiki.net, it boasts a community that aims to support over 250 languages...
Thanks,
GerardM
Why people do not get Wave ...
With the release of Google buzz, many publications write that people do not get Wave. They write that it is not widely adopted and consequently a "failure".
My answer to this is: "Wave is not ready yet!!". The idea of Wave is that it is a federated system defined by an open protocol, using open standards and published as open source.
Wave is alpha software, the protocol is not complete and the source is neither complete nor published. Wave is functional because it can be used. To some extend you can develop add-on functionality but realistically only for the published parts.
When Wave is functionally complete, when both the complete protocol and the source code are published it will be the time when developers and companies can start using Wave for real and make it their own.
Thanks,
GerardM
My answer to this is: "Wave is not ready yet!!". The idea of Wave is that it is a federated system defined by an open protocol, using open standards and published as open source.
Wave is alpha software, the protocol is not complete and the source is neither complete nor published. Wave is functional because it can be used. To some extend you can develop add-on functionality but realistically only for the published parts.
When Wave is functionally complete, when both the complete protocol and the source code are published it will be the time when developers and companies can start using Wave for real and make it their own.
Thanks,
GerardM
Sunday, January 17, 2010
#Wave does not work with a bare IE
I am at my sister's home today without my laptop. I wanted to finish a blogpost .. I tried to start Wave and I got the following screen. As I never use Internet Explorer, I do not really know it to be new. In a time where the problems with IE have had the German government advise on its use, I think it is significant..
Thanks,
GerardM
Thanks,
GerardM
Monday, November 23, 2009
Thinking about ChromeOS
I have read what many pundits have to say about the Chrome OS. I have read what they had to say before and after the press conference and, there is a bewildering array of opinions.The computers that comply with the hardware specifications, will have to deal with Wave and as netbooks are often considered as computers with insufficient specifications, I expect that there will be a range of hardware ready for "must have" applications and I expect that they will all do nicely. Wave has improved a lot in stability and performance in the last months anyway..
There is much ado about "market share". I do not really care except that I expect it to become important for the adoption of open standards. Important as well is that Chrome OS is a Linux distribution, it is open source. As developers of Canonical are involved in the development of Chrome OS, it is obvious that Linux development in general will benefit.
With Chrome OS user data will be very much stored on the web, local storage will be very much a cache that can and will be deleted when need be. My "wet dream" for Wave is still a possibility, I however want it not just as part of a Chrome OS, but also as part of the browser and not just the Chrome browser.
Thanks,
GerardM
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